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  • #16
    good words, gents...what I extract from your good words is to get out there and do some trails and choose mods relative to what I want to do and where that takes me...I mean, why spend $10K on mods if you're only going to do easy trails...at this point, I don't feel a great need to do the Rubicon...what I am drawn to is doing trails that will lead me to cool places to camp that aren't overrun with people...if I need skid plates and sliders to find and get to those places, then I'll get them...but I need to find that out for myself...but in the meantime I'll have some basics like light truck tires, hi-lo jack, tow strap, CB, safety seal if I puncture a tire, and of course my beloved flippac...I'm not going to run out and buy a winch until I've been in at least one situation where I need one (even though it looks cool to have a bull bar with lights and winch...lol..there's that cool factor) and thanks to you all, I will get a rear locker before I get the winch... :-) thanks, guys

    vince


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    • #17
      VikingVince said...

      How would you answer the following question: 'I have a stock 4x4 and $2,000 to spend on mods. What should be the first things I buy?
      I forgot, was this 'stock 4X4' the Honda CRV or the Hummer H1?


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      • #18
        Excellent thread you got going here Vince! Too bad I don't have time to write much right now, but looks like these guys have it covered

        I agree that you would do well to get the locker.


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        • #19
          VikingVince said...
          Hi Jack,

          thanks for responding...your list included two of Harry's 3 things to buy first. What was interesting to me was his number one item - what he considered the most important - which you didn't have on your list and I think most people probably wouldn't put first...would be interesting to hear others opinions as well...that's why I think this thread has some benefit to all.

          Here's Harry's list:

          1. Winch
          2. Tires - one or two sizes larger than originals with good tread
          3. Sliders/skid plate


          He says he's never lifted the suspension on his vehicles...says he can do 95% of what everyone else does and his winch will get him through the other 5%...interesting, yes???
          Harry is a good guy. He is probably talking about someone with his skills.

          > He says he's never lifted the suspension on his vehicles...says he can do 95% of what everyone else
          > does and his winch will get him through the other 5%...interesting, yes???

          Yes, but with how much damage in the other side? I know driver skills is 80% of the game, but the other 20% needs help. For instance, ground clearance. There is so much you can do with tires placement. I put the lockers way in front of the winch.
          In this group, we probably have 2 or 3 with winches. They probably used it ~ 3 times.

          -JACK


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          Tread Lightly! empowers generations to enjoy the outdoors responsibly...
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          So much to see, so little time. Try using your 4WD tosee and do more.
          Tread Lightly! empowers generations to enjoy the outdoors responsibly...
          http://www.4wdtrips.net
          So much to see, so little time. Try using your 4WD to see and do more.
          Tread Lightly! Please, don't use the environment to enjoy your truck.

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          • #20
            well ill answer the original question since i havent yet.

            since im in GA, i would go this way:

            all-terrain or mud tires.
            winch.
            longer shocks/swaybar disconnects.
            rear locker.
            skid plates/sliders.
            suspension & body lift for bigger tires.


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            • #21
              > This is the thing about the CB.

              > I have been in MANY groups where there have been one or two people who don't have a CB. As either the leader of these groups, or just a
              > participant, it is VERY ANNOYING to have to worry about weather or not the people who don't have a CB have the proper information. Is it time to
              > stop? Are you tired? Do you have to pee? Hows the gas situation? Gee, look at that neat bird flying overhead...etc.

              Good points. I believed that we all assumed that a $50.00 CB was not in question. The CB should not be even considered a mod. Save on two dinners and you get one.

              Not having a communication radio on-board is a pain. It can help you get help, bu I would not count on that. CB is so messy and people talk a lot over each other. Lots of noise and short distance in AM. If you run a good antenna and an amplifier then things get better. Then you will be talking about $300+

              -JACK



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              Post Edited (JackSilb) : 7/6/2004 8:24:54 PM (GMT-8)


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              • #22
                Looks like I'm resurecting a very old thread, but that's how I roll.

                To answer Jack's original question "How would you answer the following question: 'I have a stock 4x4 and $2,000 to spend on mods. What should be the first things I buy? (in terms of personal safety, handling different offroad situations, and ensuring the protection of my vehicle) I think it would be interesting to hear different responses to this question."

                I think this depends a lot on the rig and the driver. I tend to think of priority in the order of -Reliability first, Safety Seconds and then performance enhancements third.

                Clearly a stock NEW 4x4 should be out of the box reliable, but if you start with an older used rig ( like a 1967) then upgrading wiring or installing fuel injection may be important to make your rig more reliable.

                Once you've got a reliable rig, then safety would be the next priority. With a new rig and an inexperienced off road driver, then a class may be a very good idea. At the very least some books on off road driving and a repair manual for your rig would be a good idea. If you plan on getting into more risky situations a roll cage or upgraded brakes may be warranted.

                Once you've got reliability and safety covered, then come the performance modifications. These are clearly dependent on the vehicle as well. I think improved traction through better tires, or a traction aiding device like a locker would come early on my list. If you have something like a new rubicon, that has tires and lockers, then I might just say add an ARB cooler and call it a day.
                Tom

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