Presidents' Day Holiday Weekend 2/14~16/2004 - Pinacate Adventure - Trip Report

[YukonBob]

We're back from a great trip. http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/ok-kewl.gif

It looks like must of the excitement happened after we hit pavement on the third day. Scott, it looks like the child threw a good tantrum but happy to hear that things worked out.A very capable crew you had with you.

I'm including a picture of my crown jewel from the trip. A tinaja with lots of water. More to follow.

Post Edited By Moderator (JackSilb) : 2/18/2004 10:56:19 PM GMT

[BajaTaco]

Man, what a cool trip http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/cool.gif

Thanks to everyone for another great adventure. I really didn't want to come home.

Until I get my gallery up, here are a few hand-picked shots...






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[BajaXplorer]

Just a note to tell you all what a great time Amy and I had on this trip. Everyone of you were a pleasure to meet and travel with, and we look forward to the next opportunity. Onlydisappointment for thewhole trip was that Scott chose to wait until we had leftto perform the trailer trick. Oh well, maybe next time.</div>
BX</div>

[Ursidae69]

Cool Osprey pic Chris. http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/camera_flash.gif

I sat in cold, snowy, cold NM for the weekend. I should have went, but I couldn't.


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[YukonBob]

I've done some reference on thecraters.

My source is Camp-Fires on Desert and Lava, William T. Hornaday, Charles Scribner's Sons, 1908. All measurements take by Godfrey Sykes.

Sykes Crater

Circumference: three miles
Depth:750 feet


McDougal Crater

Circumference: two miles
Depth: 400 feet

Crater Molina:(Trebol)

Named by the McDougal party for Senor Olecario Molina, Secretary of the Department of Fomento.

[blupaddler]

I second the osprey pic. There are a couple that hang out down here by my work, and just sit on the boat masts and eat fish all day. Which, I must say is a really cool sight to see!</div>
Glad everyone is back and safe</div>


robb

[WhiteThaiGer]

Bob, interesting on the craters! I guess one has to compare them in a day not visit them 6 weeks apart. I could have sworn that McDougal has a bigger circumference. It looked deeper to us. Jack, this also means that you haven't seen the biggest crater yet http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/joker1.gif

Blupaddler, any pics of those birds carrying/catching fish?

Baja, great preview pics, can't wait to see the whole gallery. Srisuda says it'll be tough finding any of hers worth posting after seeing just a glimpse of what you got.
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Post Edited (WhiteThaiGer) : 2/18/2004 2:33:51 PM GMT

[blupaddler]

Sorry no pics...just mental images. </div>
However if you want to make a trip down to Mission Bay?.?. There is a pair that hangs out in/around Quivira Basin. I can give you better info if you so desire. But I don't usually bring my camera to work, salt environment and all.</div>





robb

[expeditionswest]

I am still in AWE over this area. Bob and Al's knowledge and experience were fantastic.
http://www.expeditionswest.com/adventures/2004/Sierra_Pinacate/images/McDougal_jpg.jpg
Some of these images a large, but I didn't want to dilute the view http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/cool.gif








Post Edited By Moderator (JackSilb) : 2/18/2004 11:06:07 PM GMT

[expeditionswest]

Here is a link to the main album (over 100 photos). http://www.expeditionswest.com/adventures/2004/Sierra_Pinacate/
I will do an official trip report in the next few weeks.


Scott Brady
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[JackSilb]

Let go on parts:

1) Scott, sorry to hear about the trailer. Glad it did not take a serious hit. I saw the pictures. I had a hard time identifying the damage.

2) Great trip. Great people. Just call me again next time. Any time

3) Very nice pictures. I am debating printing some that may start some family discussion.

Time to continue to explore the pictures.

-JACK
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[JackSilb]

Who is this Flying-jack?


http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/attach.aspx/204/Jack_dune_1_jpg.jpg



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[blupaddler]

Hey nice picshttp://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/camera_flash.gif </div>



Also I like the VW Syncro Westy, those are super cool, and super hard to find. That idea has always appealed to me...So whose is it, what year, etc.?</div>

robb

[Rockcrawler]

Awesome pics.... you guys need to quit going on trips.... you keep reminding me of what I'm missing!!!!

Thanks for sharing... I'm going to go home now and start wrenching on the Jeep. ;-)
Kyle


"Paved Roads: Another example of wasteful government spending." KD7UEH

[BajaTaco]

WhiteThaiGer said...


Baja, great preview pics, can't wait to see the whole gallery. Srisuda says it'll be tough finding any of hers worth posting after seeing just a glimpse of what you got.I doubt it! I can't wait to see hers http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Scott, nice photos!! You two got some really great shots!! Oh man, our memories will be well preserved.

BP, the Westy belongs to my good friend Wes. I believe it isa 1990. He really loves it - when he set up camp on the beach, it was definitely a sight to see. The vehicle made the trip all the way to our turn-off near Puerto Penasco (including about 35 miles of beach driving I think). At this point, Wes decided to continue on to Puerto Penasco (Rocky Point)and depart from the group. He had some intuition that the route ahead would not be so wise for the VW and he was probably correct. There were alot of rocky, steep gullies to traverse, and it would have been a challenge with the break-over angle and departure angle on the Syncro without sliders and some beefy skid plates. Definitely an awesome rig though - camping in style.


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[expeditionswest]

I am going to develop my 3 rolls of 35mm prints and scan them this weekend. We take most of our landscape and artistic shots with that camera so that they can be developed in our darkroom/enlarged, etc. I will post these this weekend.

Scott Brady
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[WhiteThaiGer]

Scott posted the panorama of McDougal crater, here is Sykes for comparison:

http://www.rxtx.com:8085/4wdtrips/photogallery/data/media/90/stitchvolcanocol9b-9c4-s.jpg

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[4RunnerDave]

I really enjoyed looking at all the pictures fromScott and Baja. Very good. The photos of the craterslook very cool. I really missed out. I wish I could have gone. I am not going to commit to any other trips from now on until I check the 4wdtrips board to see what is being planned. What is the story about the "Flying Jack?"


Dave L.
KC6MPQ

[JackSilb]

Flying Jack is what is says. Cool.
Scott has some video to share
-JACK


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[expeditionswest]

I will work on the video this afternoon. It looks VERY cool.</div>
I have the 35mm images scanned and on the web-site. I am pretty happy with the result.http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/camera_flash.gif http://www.expeditionswest.com/adventures/2004/Sierra_Pinacate/35mm/</div>



I really wish I was there right now...</div>




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[BajaTaco]

Great pics! Man, I love the sunset shot with the reflection on the Trooper. Very cool http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/cool.gif


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[JackSilb]

Oh, so clear pictures.

Thanks for sharing.
-JACK


So much to see, so little time. Try using your 4WD tosee and do more.
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[YukonBob]

One of my favorite photos of Baja and the Sierra Pinacate has always been the home page of the Arizona Region Image Archive (ARIA). (http://aria.arizona.edu/)(This is your source for maps in Arizona.)

Now I've made my own favorite photo thanks to photos provided by NASA. It's attached. Compare it to the ARIA (http://aria.arizona.edu/) site. It is a compilation of my trips on different roads through the area over the years. It's a very big file at 700kb even though it at has been compressed 90%. Download with dialup only if if you have nothing to do with you phone line for a while.

The blue lines to left are trips through El Camino Del Diabloas you can travel it in the United States. The Arizona-Sonora Border is in Orange. Everything in redare trips in Sonora, Mexico.

Post Edited (YukonBob) : 3/2/2004 6:09:43 AM GMT

[AlWalter]

Bob,

Can you rotate the image 90?

KG6SGM
Always ready to go.

[YukonBob]

We can do anything you want to it. What did you have in mind?

[BajaTaco]

http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/supercool.gifThat photo ROCKS http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/supercool.gif especially since I can relate to it. Sharon thought it was bitchen' too http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/ok-kewl.gif


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[expeditionswest]

Ok, here is my trip report (http://www.expeditionswest.com/adventures/2004/Sierra_Pinacate/index.html) with VIDEO http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/shocked.gif and lots of pictures http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/camera_flash.gif Including the "Jumping Jack".http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/hop.gif </div>



I am also curious what everyone thinks of my new (http://www.expeditionswest.com/adventures/) adventure home page compared to the old (http://www.expeditionswest.com/adventures/index_2.html) one. I tried to emphasize the bigger trips by year, as opposed toone long boring list. Thanks for the feedback.</div>

Scott Brady
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[BajaTaco]

http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/shocked.gifhttp://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/ok-kewl.gif

Man, you do some good work. Can you say... "eye candy" ? Very nice. That is quite the deluxe album of memories for us all. Thanks!

I really like the new Adventure page. I REEALLY like it! More eye candy. It looks great!

BTW, it looks like the links for the two Jumpin Jack vids point to the same video. I am looking forward to seeing the other one when you get the link fixed http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/wink.gif


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[expeditionswest]

Thanks for the feedback, I fixed the link. If anyone else has suggestions let me know, as I posted the site late last night...

Scott Brady
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[Ursidae69]

Great album Scott! http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/freaked.gif Very nice! The video is funny, you are crazy! http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/wink.gif </div>
What type of scanner do you use for the 35mm scans? I have a sub-par scanner at home and my scanned shots are usually not that great. I need to upgrade. </div>
Chuck...</div>








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[expeditionswest]

I use an HP 6110 that will scan up to 9600 dpi. I do most of my scanning with 4 pictures on the scanner @ 200-300 dpi for web work.

Scott Brady
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[JackSilb]

Good job Scott. Very nice report.

Thanks for the videos too. For some reason, from the pictures the jump looks more of a challenge.

-JACK


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[WhiteThaiGer]

In case you need more feedback..... I also like the new look better.

About the jump videos. There is only action for about 10sec and then it sits there and plays for 10+ more seconds, that on purpose? Or is it something with my player?


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[expeditionswest]

I noticed the video playing longer too. It has never done that before, but I did record those video's at a higher resolution. Dont know???

Scott Brady
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[YukonBob]

I've been doing some post trip research. I thought that I'd share a few items thatmay be of interest to those on the trip.

The big salt flat has a name. Lumholtz (1912, 261)saysit is sometimes calledSalina Grande. He reports that a mining surveyor calculated that it contained seven million tons of salt. Lumholtz found numerous springs in the area and that will be something for us to explore on the next trip. Other salt flats in the area were sources of salt to natives that inhabited the Pinacate region and Southern Arizona. Salt from this area was carried to Tucson for barter. His description of the treks to obtain the salt are fascinating reading.

The mud cliffs between El Golfo and Salina Grande appear to be deposits from the ancient Colorado River and are fossil rich. The mouth of the Colorado river may have been where Salina Grande is now. You can read the original reference here (http://www.paleomon2.com/quaternary.html).

Post Edited (YukonBob) : 3/12/2004 5:45:45 AM GMT

[AlWalter]

Bob,

Do you have any more photos from Tule Tank to post?

KG6SGM
Always ready to go.

[YukonBob]

Do I have more pictures?http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/chairfall.gif

I'm walking out the door to go to Baja. (Stop me if you've heard it)

I'll get something together next week or maybe I'll just give you some prints at the party. I'm experimenting with photolabs and digital photos.

[WhiteThaiGer]

Until Bob shows us some more pictures maybe these can help pass the time:</div>
Srisuda's Gallery (http://www.whitethaiger.net/albums/Pinacate0204/index.htm)</div>




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[BajaTaco]

http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/supercool.gif Srisuda ROCKS! http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/supercool.gif

Awesome pics.


Here is the gallery at BAJATACO.COM (http://bajataco.com/sonoranorte/index.htm)


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[JackSilb]

Nice pictures!
So happy you guys are around. We need another trip to keep the fun level high.

-JACK


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[WhiteThaiGer]

Chris,great gallery! I really like the one with us hiking up to the highest dune.</div>
A Feuerzangenbowle picture seems to be a must now http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/wink.gif . Talking about the drink, the local store is out of the cones for the season, so I have some brought over from Germany by courier http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/biggrin.gif We probably won't use them until it gets colder again though?!?</div>



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[BajaTaco]

Thanks Uwe. I think it might be a little chilly at night during the party... http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/idea.gif


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[WhiteThaiGer]

BajaTaco said...
Thanks Uwe. I think it might be a little chilly at night during the party... http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/idea.gif
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Unfortunately my courier doesn't get here till after the party http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/cry.gif



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[expeditionswest]

Uwe,

Tell Srisuda that she did a wonderful job!

I have really enjoyed the different perspectives of each differentphotographer!
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[YukonBob]

Here a a couple of picturesby request.