Short xmas & new year trip

[WhiteThaiGer]

Looks like the shorter trip ideas have been dropped in the Christmas trip thread.

Is anyone still interested in something shorter, say from 12/26-27 to 1/3-4?

There was talk about Baja and southern AZ & Pinacate.

In Baja there is always 28N 113W that needs still to be visited. Getting a boat to try 27N 112W where we ended up on the beach.


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[GoodTimes]

I only have christmas eve, and christmas day off, then the 29th and 30th. If someones trip passed through southern Arizona on those days, I might be able to hook up with them for a short time.


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[expeditionswest]

I am up for a trip the 25th through the 28th.

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[YukonBob]

Here's what I'm thinking.http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/shocked.gif </div>
December 26th to 28th El Golfo, Sonora</div>
Maybe spend the night of the 25th in Yuma.</div>
Camping on the beach 26th and 27th. My plan is to drive all the roads in the area.</div>
May exit on the road to Rocky Point and take the smugglers road north into the Pinacate on Sunday. Should have time to take a peek at the roads around 32114.</div>



December 31 to January 4th Catavina, Baja</div>
December 31st New Years in Ensanada</div>
La Pinta Hotel Rooms $61.60</div>
The plan would be to make Catavina the base of operations. I want to locate some old sections of the dirt highway between El Rosario and Catavina. I would like to explore all the roads heading east from the highway to the Pacific. I would like to go Mission Santa Maria. I would like to ... Well, the list is pretty long and we won't even get close to doing it all in four days. I would expect to camp one or two nights near the Pacific. If it's too cold we might have to head for the Sea of Cortez. Weather conditions will dictate some of what we do.</div>
Those are my thoughts. Let's hear yours.</div>

[AlWalter]

What happened to the 12/29-30?

Do you know where to pick up the Smugglers Rd from the south? I'm assuming 1 of the 2 roads Dave & I saw from the north would be prime candidates for where it winds up.

Like your basic layout for Baja. I will camp at Rancho Santa Inez with my Airstream. I'm not crazy about camping on the Pacific, at that time of year especially. I've had that area on the back burner for years (Roads from Mex 1 to the Pacific).

The trip into Mission Santa Maria isn't going to get any better. In fact it seems like the both the area & ruins themselves have deteriorated over the years. My first trip in was around 10 years ago(+-).

If you haven't already guessed, count me in.

12/25 Fat Harvey's?

[WhiteThaiGer]

I like your plan Bob!
http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/hop.gif It's modular, perfect for people who can only do one part.

http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/hop.gifIt's not as much driving as Copper C., my navigator rebelled on that due to all the driving.

Now for the Hotel we need to pre-plan, I'll have to run it all by the navigator/photographer http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/cool.gif


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[AlWalter]

Add to the list, a day trip into the Yubay rock art site.

[YukonPeggy]

Hey- what happen to posting on the other Christmas trip forum? I know, you thought you could lose me http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/nono.gif but no luck. Here I am.http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/joker1.gif </div>
New Years Eve in Ensenada?I called La Pinta and they have mucho rooms as of today. Catavina base of operations? Possible Sea of Cortez visit? All sounds good. I might consider such a trip.http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/eyes.gif </div>






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[WhiteThaiGer]

YukonPeggy said...

Hey- what happen to posting on the other Christmas trip forum? I know, you thought you could lose me http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/nono.gif but no luck. Here I am.http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/joker1.gif
New Years Eve in Ensenada?I called La Pinta and they have mucho rooms as of today. Catavina base of operations? Possible Sea of Cortez visit? All sounds good. I might consider such a trip.http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/eyes.gif


</div>Peggy, didn't want to loose you, I just thought the short trip options got lost in the xmas-Copper C adventure. As much as I want to go back to the CC it's just not practical with the time we have for the trip, for planning&amp;preparing, etc. Now with this new modular trip approach we'll be part of some trip http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/hop.gif


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[YukonPeggy]

Uwe, it wasn't you who tried to lose me...it was that guy with the initials Y.B. I might decide on my own trip but don't tell Y.B.</div>
I'm glad you're considering Catavina. We will have fun.</div>




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[JackSilb]

Hello,

Guess what?!. My long trip plan is not happening. The other family that would do this trip with us will stay home until the 26.

Do you have room for me in this trip?
I may even ask for a seat from you for my mother in law, or the dogs. Your choice. Huh, this did not sound good. I am not making any comparison here. I really love my mother in law.

She is a kind of coming and not coming for about 2 months now.

-JACK
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Post Edited (JackSilb) : 12/9/2003 8:42:22 PM GMT

[JackSilb]

YukonBob and YukonPeggy,

Please provide us with the days and contact info for the hotel(s).
Lets do a big party in the hotels.

Thanks,
-JACK


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[YukonPeggy]

Hi Jack,</div>
I have an idea - I'll take your mother in law and Bob can sit with your dogs-at home! Just kidding. I'm still recouping from the bug that hit the morning after the 4X party. That means, Bob made this trip plan while I was knocked out on the couch. So we will have to wait to see what his plansare - including me. Sounds good so far. And now a big party at the hotel too.</div>
Sorry about the Copper Canyon - Alamos trip not turning out but I am gladyou will be joining the Baja trip.</div>



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[WhiteThaiGer]

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[JackSilb]

Uwe,

Are you up to another round?
Well, red wine goes well with red beef. Barbecue ...

We need to get the hotel reservations going quick.


-JACK


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[YukonBob]

Al said...
What happened to the 12/29-30?I'll be working those two days (and part of the 31st) so it will give you time to get into trouble on your own.


Fat Harveys and the Hacienda it is on the 25th. I don't know my arrival time yet but it will probably be close to the last trip. Peggy won't be joiningus for this part of the trip. I think I saw where the smugglers road took off to the north on our July trip. I at least saw a road that we'll try and see where it goes. I'm sure we'll find a way or have some stories to tell if we don't.


For the Catavina part:


I'll be posting some information soon on hotels for those that interested. Peggy call the hotel in La Paz today and they have plenty of rooms but we dont want to wait. We'll see if we can get some kind of deal so let us know who is interested in New Years Eve in Ensenada and who might be interested in staying at the La Pinta in Catavina. Santa Inez is a cheaper place to stay and you can camp there. Theyhave some basic rooms. Al can probably provide you some information on those. It's been a couple of years since I've been to Santa Inez. I've got some work to do on the logistics for this trip because it was just an idea this morning.

We're going to see cephalopodshttp://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/hop.gif

[WhiteThaiGer]

YukonBob said...

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Al said...
What happened to the 12/29-30?I'll be working those two days (and part of the 31st) so it will give you time to get into trouble on your own.

A vacation with a break for work http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/biggrin.gif Cool stuff! I just hope I don't need to take that break....http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/eyes.gif

Now I hope we can make both parts. I guess part two has the higher priority, so we must do that one.


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[YukonPeggy]

I didn't call La Paz - I called Ensenada's La Pinta Hotel. However, I am up to going to La Paz...



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[YukonBob]

http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/blush.gif

La Paz would be some driving. Must have been one of those Freud thingshttp://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/blush.gif

[YukonPeggy]

Al said...
I will camp at Rancho Santa Inez with my Airstream.
Hi Al, is your airstream self-contained (bath/potty) or do you usefacilities at Santa Inez?
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[quote]

YukonBob said...La Paz would be some driving. Must have been one of those Freud things

Hi YB,
[quote]It wouldn't be crazy if we left on the 25th-26 and start our way home on the 2nd (La Paz-Mulege; Mulege-San Quentin; San Quentin Home)! Okay, so the drugs http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/skull.gif are getting to me...
[quote]
[quote]Hi Jack &amp; Uwe,
[quote]Feuerzangenbowle - I think its illegal to drink anything but tequila in Mexico.
[quote]
[quote]Okay back to bed - more drugs - seems I can think better that way.



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[JackSilb]

Still waiting for the hotel informaiton.
Time for a trip to the wild animal park.

I will be back ...

-JACK


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[WhiteThaiGer]

[quote]

YukonPeggy said...

[quote]
[quote]Hi Jack &amp; Uwe,
[quote]Feuerzangenbowle - I think its illegal to drink anything but tequila in Mexico.http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/shocked.gif

Tequila is nice, but when it's colder outside andwe are camping and I had my choice between Tequila/margarita and Feuerzangenbowle, I would go German anytime it warms you up in a hurry.http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/supercool.gif


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[CaptainSteve]

Hi everyone, we are back,.,. looks like Jack tried to lose us too,, just kidding.
I am tring to climb out of a drug induced coma from a cold as well.
Are you talking about two trips here? One to the Rocky point area around Christmas and another to Catavina around New Years? Let us know when you firm up the itenerary as we would like to come along.

[YukonBob]

Welcome Captain Steve</div>



Yes there are two different trips or those with time can probably turn them into one trip. Might even be able to get to the hot springs at Guadalupe Canyon or spend a night or two at Mike's Sky Ranch while I'm off at work.</div>



I've posted different threads for both parts of trip. Your welcome for any part of either or all of both.</div>



The trip schedules are as firm as them are going to get.</div>

[JackSilb]

Hey,

Who will be able to do what?
I propose we describe this trip in parts. Some people may stay for the entire trip, like us.

ex:

Part I
Part II - During Bob's break for work.
Part III

Bob can you help us by providing a summary of your postings as Part(s) I, II, III?
If you make a new posting with the description, proposed route / general area, dates, hotel /camping, you can go back to the same main posting and edit it with the latests details when needed.

Also, how can we help? Moral support I mean, since my experience in Baja is very limited and I will be working until the 24.

Thanks,
-JACK

edited - Bob, I changed the title of your posting to reflect the Part I to III deal. I hope yo don't mind.
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Post Edited (JackSilb) : 12/8/2003 11:22:31 PM GMT

[YukonPeggy]

Okay, now Jack is trying to lose me. part 1 part II Part III -



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[AlWalter]

[quote]

YukonPeggy said...


Al said...
I will camp at Rancho Santa Inez with my Airstream.
[quote]Hi Al, is your airstream self-contained (bath/potty) or do you usefacilities at Santa Inez?
[quote]
[quote]Potty yes.http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/yeah.gifShower is for midgets, it's sponge bath only for us big guys.
[quote]I don't remember much about the facilities at Rancho Santa Inez, it's been a few years,&amp; has changed hands I think. They weren't great the last time I was there, toilet, sink etc.(I don't remember a shower). The room accomodations also were not good. I wouldn't stay in them. It's camping (tent, RV, open air) or nothing for me at Rancho Santa Inez. The restuarant used to serve good food, but that's been awhile. The La Pinta is too close-by not to use some of their facilities if camping at the Rancho.http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/ok-kewl.gif

KG6SGM
Always ready to go.

[JackSilb]

Since we are talking about potty,

Just bought some gear to make camping with the family easier. Guess what is part of the gear list?
Besides what you guessed correctly, I got one of those portable beds (cot) that you assembly on the fly. I will play with one first at home then if it works OK I will order some for the family. The air beds are loosing pressure in a couple of hours. I don't want to try to fix them so they can go flat again.

-JACK

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Post Edited (JackSilb) : 12/9/2003 8:41:16 PM GMT

[WhiteThaiGer]

Jack,</div>
We have 2 similar to this one on ebay (comes without mat): http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=3644092833&amp;category=16 040</div>
You are welcome to borrow them for the trip. </div>



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[JackSilb]

Thanks Uwe,

If the Cot pass my test then I will order more for the rest of the family. We will need it.
I am buying some gear even for my mother in law, just in case she really makes it.
If she does, I will need a seat in someones truck for one of the kids.

-JACK
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Post Edited (JackSilb) : 12/9/2003 8:40:26 PM GMT

[WhiteThaiGer]

JackSilb said...
Thanks Uwe,

If the Cot pass my test then I will more for the rest of the family. We will need it.
I am buying some gear even for my mother in law, just in case she really makes it.
If she does, I will need a sit in someones truck for one of the kids.

-JACKLet me know, the cots are always ready, just have to put them in the car.
If you take cots you may need a trailer too....

For the xtra seat you have to let the group know. We, for example, normally don't have an extra seat. I would have to install it, which only takes a few minutes.


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[JackSilb]

OK Uwe,

Onthe extra seat, I will let people know in advance (10 min or so before I needed it) http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/eyes.gif .

Regarding the cots. The one I am getting it supposed to be "very portable". Gets stored < 1/4 of the real size. We will see. That is why I am getting one first instead of 5.


Here (http://www.campmor.com/webapp/commerce/command/ProductDisplay?prmenbr=226&amp;prrfnbr=7596) is what I got

-JACK


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Post Edited (JackSilb) : 12/9/2003 8:47:27 PM GMT

[WhiteThaiGer]

[quote]

JackSilb said...
Onthe extra seat, I will let people know in advance (10 min or so before I needed it) http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/eyes.gif .

Too late, I for one would have to know 10min before I start packing http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/cool.gif

Regarding the cots. The one I am getting it supposed to be "very portable". Gets stored < 1/4 of the real size. We will see. That is why I am getting one first instead of 5.


Here (http://www.campmor.com/webapp/commerce/command/ProductDisplay?prmenbr=226&amp;prrfnbr=7596) is what I got

Too short...


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[JackSilb]

I knew you would say that.
There isthe giant version too for people that forgot to stop growing.

-JACK

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Post Edited (JackSilb) : 12/11/2003 12:41:53 AM GMT

[BajaTaco]

JackSilb said...
I knew you would say that.
Thereis the giant version too for people that forgot to stop growing.

-JACK
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Post Edited By Moderator (JackSilb) : 12/11/2003 12:41:37 AM GMT