El Golfo-El Pinacate

[AlWalter]

I'll be heading to El Golfo-El Pinacate on 11/15-17/03.
Plan is to depart Yuma around 9 am on 11/15 head south & cross at San Luis for El Golfo. Cruise the town & stop in at El Capitan for snacks & refreshments http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/burger.gifhttp://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/beertoast.gifbefore heading south on the beach. Possible side trip inland to the dunes before setting up camp on the beach. http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/cool.gif11/16 head south for the light house & then on to Puerto Penasco. Fuel up & go to El Pincate National Park to explore & set up camp. 11/17 explore more of the Park before heading west on Mex 2 for shopping in Algodones & an afternoon border crossing.

Trip is limited to 6 vehicles.

4are signed up with openings for 2.
Al
4runnerdave
WhiteThaiGer ?
Bajataco - depart Sunday pm
YukonBob - depart Sunday am





Post Edited By Moderator (JackSilb) : 11/17/2003 6:25:46 AM GMT

[JackSilb]

Don't forget your digital camera OK.

I can't make it this time.
-JACK


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[MrS]

Sounds fun. Are those the dunes you and Dave talked about in Az?Can't wait for the post trip write-up.


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[WhiteThaiGer]

I'd like to pencil us in for this one.If the trip starts to fill up I'll either ink it or erase ithttp://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/wink.gif


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[AlWalter]

SteveS said...
Sounds fun. Are those the dunes you and Dave talked about in Az?Can't wait for the post trip write-up.

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Yes, they may be as expansive as the Algodones dunes in the Imperial Valley.

KG6SGM

[AlWalter]

JackSilb said...
Don't forget your digital camera OK.

I can't make it this time.
-JACK
</div>I guess someone with a digital camera needs to sign up.

KG6SGM

[expeditionswest]

I just got back from El Golfo to Puerto Penasco today! As my first real foray into Baja I was in awe!I have never seen such beauty and remote adventure in my life, and few places in my memory have left such an impression. Now, I cannot wait to go back! Next time with scuba gear, and a better rack for the Kayaks. The road along the train tracks through the Altar Desert was unreal, and plenty of challenge while pulling a trailer. I will post a trip report in the next few days.</div>
What an incredible place!</div>
http://www.expeditionswest.com/adventures/2003/El_Golfo_2003/DSC00425.JPG</div>
http://www.expeditionswest.com/adventures/2003/El_Golfo_2003/P1010062.JPG</div>
http://www.expeditionswest.com/adventures/2003/El_Golfo_2003/DSC00401.JPG</div>


Scott Brady
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[JackSilb]

Scott,

It seems very remote indeed. It makes me want to go too.
But now with our younger son, things got a bit more difficulty. My house boss, got much more conservative.

The pictures you posted are very nice.

-JACK


So much to see, so little time. Try using your 4WD tosee and do more.
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[JackSilb]

Al,

Any change you move the date to Thanksgiving? 11/27~30/2003?

-JACK


So much to see, so little time. Try using your 4WD tosee and do more.
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[WhiteThaiGer]

JackSilb said...
Any change you move the date to Thanksgiving? 11/27~30/2003?http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/shocked.gif Loose a trip??


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[BajaTaco]

Awesome pics Scott!

OK, I will have to consider this one.


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[Ursidae69]

Nice pictures. You mentioned in another thread I think about posting the route you took, I'd be very interested in the info. http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/ok-kewl.gif


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[AlWalter]

JackSilb said...
Al,

Any change you move the date to Thanksgiving? 11/27~30/2003?

-JACK
</div>I thought Uwe was talking about doing Kofa NWR? Are you confused?

KG6SGM

[AlWalter]

Scott,
Great pics. I've been going down there at least once a year for 25 years now. It gets my vote as a favorite spot. Come 11/15 weekend, will mark my 3rd trip there this year.

KG6SGM

[WhiteThaiGer]

AlWalter said...



JackSilb said...
Al,

Any change you move the date to Thanksgiving? 11/27~30/2003?

-JACK
I thought Uwe was talking about doing Kofa NWR? Are you confused?Yes, I want 2 separate trips. Haven't done any planning yet, but I still want to do the Thanksgiving trip.

I think Jack may not be able to do 3 November weekends plus the party weekend.
Now if I can take all those days off required for the November trips.... <keep-your-fingers-crossed emoticon goes here>


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[MrsS]

Hi Uwe:</div>
What's going on with the party weekend. When in November is it and where? Let us know.</div>



AnitaS</div>

[JackSilb]

Uwe,

You are correct. I was trying to combine the trips. Or should I say, short-cut one.
I am still interested in the Thanksgiving trip once you define it. I even changed the 4Runner Header so it would sound more like a Toyota.

-JACK


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[AlWalter]

We will meet at the Hacienda Motel 2150 4th Ave Yuma, 928-782-4316, on Saturday 11/15/03 for an 8-9 am departure. Those who need Mex Ins can get it in San Luis, CA before we cross the border. Make sure every one has a picture ID & or passport. A tourist card or a vehicle permit will not be necessary for this trip. Bring plenty of drinking water, food & all camping gear. I will supply a 10'x20' shade tarp.

KG6SGM

[YukonBob]

Al

I've tried most everything I can think of to break free for this trip but it doesn't look like it's going to happen. I was really interested in the El Capitan and Lighthouse portion. I was thinking on Sunday I'd break off on the smugglers road and head north into the Pinicate and back home. Unfortunately, I only have one day and not two. I'm a definite no for the trip but don't be surprised if you see me at the Hacienda.http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/confused.gif




Post Edited (YukonBob) : 11/6/2003 2:56:52 AM GMT

[JackSilb]

Please make sure Uwe get his immigration paperwork with him. We almost got in trouble this weekend. If it was not for my sweet talk we would be in trouble. Uwe did not have his required paper work. And we all know that he looks very suspicious just like me.

-JACK


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[BajaTaco]

Al, Mrs. Baja and myself are interested in doing this trip. Is there room left for us?

I am thinking about making a couple of variations from your schedule for our own purposes regarding our schedule.

1. I am thinking about crossing the border Friday night and camping out at El Golfo Friday night. We could then meet you when you get there on Saturday. This would afford us 2 nights of beach camping instead of one.

2. I am wondering if we would be able to continue on fromPuerto Penasco (instead of camping at the Pinicate with you)and get home Sunday night. We both need to work on Monday. I guess it depends on how late you think we will get to Puerto Penasco. It will probably take us about 7 hours to get home from there. How much drive-time do you think we will have between Sat. night beach camp location and PP?


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[AlWalter]

Baja,

That works for me. We can meet in El Golfo Saturday am, or where your camping. I usually camp about 11 miles south of town. There is a road that comes down to the beach near a wash, & I camp about 1/2 mile south of there. That is the road that gives good access to the dunes, if we do that.

Drive time into PP Sunday should be 4-5 hrs. With an early enough start, that should give you enough time to fuel up & head home.

Looking forward to having you guys along.

KG6SGM

[BajaTaco]

Cool - thanks for the info Al. It will be great to see you. Maybe you can send me a little more info on the El Golfo camping spot if you have any - no rush, just PM me or email me whenever you have a chance.




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[YukonBob]

What frequencies are you going to use?

[GoodTimes]

Scott Brady said...

http://www.expeditionswest.com/adventures/2003/El_Golfo_2003/DSC00425.JPG


Hey!!! The front of that kayak looks familiar! Kinda like my 12.5' Dagger Blackwater....If you change the coast line to look like this: (warning--HUGE pic here (http://www.californiacoastline.org/cgi-bin/image.cgi?image=8417&amp;mode=big&amp;lastmode=sequential&amp; flags=0)), I would think I took the pic....not that I ever took my camara out with me---scared of loosing it in the surf--http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/rolleyes.gif


olllllllo <---- If you can read that, roll me over.

KG6OWO

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[expeditionswest]

http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/camera_flash.gifYes, those two areas are so similarhttp://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/lol.gif


The kayak was a 10.5 Dagger Blackwater. We had a 12.5 with us also. For potentially hostile photo environments I use the new Sony Cyber-shotU DSC-U60 Waterproof digital. It is a great (small) camera for digital shots. My 35mm EOS 3 can get bulky with 28-300mm lens, with more in the bag. I have really grown fond of the little digital, even though it goes against my pack everything and the kitchen sink philosophy http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/smashfreakb.gif until the rear axle touches the bump stops http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/nono.gif .</div>

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[WhiteThaiGer]

I think we are moving into the same category as Bob on this onehttp://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/cry.gif. I'ts unlikely that we make, but don't be shocked if we dohttp://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/wink.gif


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[AlWalter]

WhiteThaiGer said...
I think we are moving into the same category as Bob on this onehttp://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/cry.gif. I'ts unlikely that we make, but don't be shocked if we dohttp://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/wink.gif
</div>If necessary, you can do what Chris will do by going home Sunday from Puerto Penasca.

[YukonBob]

I'd like to be included if my own special itinerary is ok. I'l leave after work on Friday about 6PM. Arriving tenish at Jimmy D's or the Hacienda. Or some other place if anyone is still up.

Sunday morning I'll need to get up with the sun and head back so I can be in San Clemente by noon. I'm in for a day.http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/hop.gif
Frequencieshttp://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/confused.gif

Maybe I'll even have time to spit across the Coloradohttp://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/idea.gif

[BajaTaco]

http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/jumpin.gif

Why don't we just use "4WD1" for the frequency. If we need to switch, we'll go to 4WD2.


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[AlWalter]

YukonBob said...
What frequencies are you going to use?I prefer 146.535.

[AlWalter]

YukonBob said...
I'd like to be included if my own special itinerary is ok. I'l leave after work on Friday about 6PM. Arriving tenish at Jimmy D's or the Hacienda. Or some other place if anyone is still up.

Fat Harvey's?

Sunday morning I'll need to get up with the sun and head back so I can be in San Clemente by noon. I'm in for a day.http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/hop.gif

From the beach to San Clemente is a good 6 hrs. Leave at sun-up with the time zone change will be just about right.
Frequencieshttp://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/confused.gif

146.535

Maybe I'll even have time to spit across the Coloradohttp://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/idea.gif

Heading across Mex 2 from San Luis at about 50 mph as you cross the Colorado works.

[AlWalter]

I'll be grilling a pork tenderloin for Saturday dinner. Feel free to contribute.

[YukonBob]

Fat Harveyhttp://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/hop.gif . I love that guy. That will be my first stop.</div>
146.535 isn't one of the 4WD frequencies. http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/eyes.gif Could you learn to love one of those or should I add this one to the list?</div>
I'll be traveling solo so my ability to cook is greatly diminished. I'll be opening a granola bar for dinner but I'll bring enough for everyone.http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/smilewinkgrin.gif </div>

[AlWalter]

I don't care which frequency we use. Just let me know.

[YukonBob]

Let's start with 4WD1 and see how it works. We can always switch. </div>
Oh, Maybe we can't until we find Bajahttp://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/headscratch.gif
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Post Edited (YukonBob) : 11/14/2003 3:40:04 AM GMT

[BajaTaco]

Hey guys, I regret to say that we are not gonna be able to make it. Some stuff has come up, and combined with too much already going on... it's just not a wise choice for us to go right now. I apologize for breaking the news so late, but we were still planning on going up until just now.

I hope this doesn't inconvenience anyone - I don't think it does?

I will send email to Al and Bob also - just in case. If I don't hear a confirmation from you guys by morning, I'll call you.

Have a great time and take lotsa http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/camera_flash.gif 's for us!



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[AlWalter]

BajaTaco said...
Hey guys, I regret to say that we are not gonna be able to make it. Some stuff has come up, and combined with too much already going on... it's just not a wise choice for us to go right now. I apologize for breaking the news so late, but we were still planning on going up until just now.

I hope this doesn't inconvenience anyone - I don't think it does?

I will send email to Al and Bob also - just in case. If I don't hear a confirmation from you guys by morning, I'll call you.

Have a great time and take lotsa http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/camera_flash.gif 's for us!

</div>Sorry you guys can't make it. We will miss you.http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/cry.gif

[WhiteThaiGer]

http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/shakehead.gif No more if's or maybe's from us anymore. There is no way we can make it http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/cry.gif http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/cry.gif

Have fun and keep an eye open an any roads that remotely point to the confluence 32N 114Wdown there. I still have that one in the back of my mind, even though Jack already moved the trip planning thread to 'Previous Trips' http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/emoticons/headscratch.gif .
It maybe a long desert hike, but I would even consider that, just have to find someone to join.


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[JackSilb]

> I still have that one in the back of my mind, even though Jack already moved the trip planning thread to 'Previous Trips' .

Oops, should I get back it to future trips?


> It maybe a long desert hike, but I would even consider that, just have to find someone to join.
Can you use Quads to get where you want?
-JACK


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[YukonBob]

I'm back from the short version. Al and Dave should be resting comforably in the Pinacate tonight. I left them at 6:15 this morning.

I think I've found my new most favorite beach. Thirty-five miles of spectacular drivable beach. In that thirty-five miles there were a total of six small groups camping, including ours. The weather was picture perfect.

On my first trip, we went inland because Al hadnot donethat part. This trip we stayed on the beach because I had not done it. Al and I agree that once for the inland road is probably enough. We spent some time locating access from the beach to the inland road at all the major spots including the road to Puerto Penasco. I'd still like to map all the roads in the area so I'll be inland again but for pleasure I'll be on the beach. It's the kind of place I could plant myself for a while and a journey junkie doesn't say that too often.

I've posted five pictures, that don't do the place justice, on the forum, but I know you need to see something. They are eg1 to eg5 (http://www.rxtx.com:8085/4wdtrips/photogallery/details.php?image_id=904).



Post Edited (YukonBob) : 11/17/2003 5:54:54 AM GMT

[JackSilb]

Bob, you are back and already posted a quick report and pictures. I see you are setting the standard here one more time.

Just if I could have done this trip. Well, next time. These past two weekends I left home around 6:00 AM and came back 6:00 PM doing kids activities. Soccer and volleyball.

Thanks,
-JACK


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