Tahoe, CA - 4th of July trip, 7/4~7/2003

[JackSilb]

I believe I will be alone in 4<SUP>th of July.
The family is giving up on me and going to Brazil.
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Who is interested in a trip in Northern California?
I am not sure where. I am open for suggestions:
- Costal
- Sierras
- Mountain with lakes
- Close to Rivers
- Including a Hike
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-JACK
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Post Edited (JackSilb) : 8/3/2003 4:37:58 AM GMT

[Ursidae69]

I would go to Brazil with them!

A few Pictures of my 2001 GMC Sonoma ZR2.
106k and still running strong...
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[BajaTaco]

I'm ready! http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/jumpin.gif

I can get a cheap roundtrip flight to San Jose. Is that convenient enough for you to pick me up? I will have to ride with you in your 4runner. I could just bring my backpack loaded and ready to go. Let's do it!

Do you only have July 4th (Friday) off from work? Or should I come on Thursday? I will need to be dropped off at the airport on Sunday or Monday.

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[WhiteThaiGer]

More details, more details...http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/smile.gif
Northern CA is quite far, if you are talking about central CA we might be able to do a long weekend.

As far as I know we don't have anything for that date, I'll verify...




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[JackSilb]

Baja,

Lets do it.
Go a head and get the tickets. San Jose or Oakland are close to home. 30, 40 min max.
I am excited about this. Then we can share the pictures with people around here.

I can pick you up Thursday night. Actually, why don't you fly to Oakland since I will be there Thursday night coming back from San Diego.
Are you doing Southwest?

Get your return flight on Sunday night.
This is great!

OK people who else?

-JACK

So much to see, so little time. Try using your 4WD tosee and do more.
Tread Lightly! empowers generations to enjoy the outdoors responsibly...

[JackSilb]

Ursidae69 said...

I would go to Brazil with them!


I wish I could.
But with the new job and so much to do this is not an option http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/cry.gif .

Thanks for the note.
-JACK


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Tread Lightly! empowers generations to enjoy the outdoors responsibly...

[JackSilb]

Baja,

Lets start talking about the plan.
Any place you wish you could have done before?
Anything on your to do list?

Anybody can propose.

-JACK

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[BajaTaco]

Jack, I need to probably call you so we can make a decision faster... check your PM's.

I need to fly to San Jose, and I need to arrive on Friday morning at 9:30 am and leave on Monday night.

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[GoodTimes]

Sorry Jack, but I can't make it. It is too close to the Rubicon trip.

olllllllo

KG6OWO

Price is soon forgotton, quality is not.

[Cecile]

Sounds like fun, but we'll be resting up between tours and"house mods"and just spending the 4th bbqing &amp; enjoying the big high school fireworks showright from our own backyard. Dogs like it better that way anyway. When Mommie and Daddy are gone and those big booms go off right behind their back yard - it scares them to death. http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/freaked.gif

Cecile
Well behaved women rarely make history-
Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
Real women shift into 4WD!

[BajaTaco]

OK, got the tickets - return on Sunday instead of Monday...

Cecile - yea, when I was a kid, I had a wonderful dog and she was scared of the fireworks too. Kinda sad. Lots of doggie psycho-trauma on 4th of July :(

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[WhiteThaiGer]

[quote]

BajaTaco said...
OK, got the tickets - return on Sunday instead of Monday...
The thread isjust 6.5 hours old and tickets are already boughthttp://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/shocked.gifhttp://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/shocked.gif.

How long is the drive from down here to up there Jack?


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[JackSilb]

Hello,

I like to see the Forum busy again.

Let me try to address the questions.

Baja, I am not sure why I mentioned Sunday. Monday would be OK too. But I guess is too late now uh?
If not, be free to try to get a Monday flight. I get to Oakland airport at ~6:30 AM. That means I am up every Monday around 4:30 AM. Ouch. I get to work around 10:00 AM. It takes me just ~ 6 hours commuting.


Uwe, the drive will take you 8 hours at least. I did with one or two stops last time to get gas/lunch. That means you would need to leave Thursday afternoon and sleep over my place arriving Thursday very late or early Friday depend how you want to see it.

Come on Good Times, 'just do it'.

-JACK

So much to see, so little time. Try using your 4WD tosee and do more.
Tread Lightly! empowers generations to enjoy the outdoors responsibly...

[YukonBob]

Uwe


Let em go, those guys with their airplanes and mods.


We'll go to Yuma and hang out. Maybe make a trip to El Golfo and scout the confluence. The weather should be great. It's too early in the season for a hurricane.


You did buy your Mexican insurance by the year?http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/smile.gif

[JackSilb]

Bummers.
Come on, just < 10 hours to get here.

-JACK

So much to see, so little time. Try using your 4WD tosee and do more.
Tread Lightly! empowers generations to enjoy the outdoors responsibly...

[BajaTaco]

WhiteThaiGer said...
The thread isjust 6.5 hours old and tickets are already boughthttp://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/shocked.gifhttp://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/shocked.gif.

Hey, I am a man of ACTION http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/scool.gif

What's that old saying...?

"Life is not a cross-dressing rehearsal..." or something like that...

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WOOOHOOOOO !!!! Let's ROCK !!! Nor-Cal baby - YEAH !!!

LMAO at Bob http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/lol.gif Annual insurance means you are dedicated... yea!

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[JackSilb]

Hey,

Baja and I are talking about Lake Tahoe. The trail books show a bunch of trails around the lake.

Plus we will be single for the weekend. The communites around the lake are full of people. The night is busy.
A married man is like a dog on leash, you can't bite but you can bark ...

We will send you pictures.
-Jack

So much to see, so little time. Try using your 4WD tosee and do more.
Tread Lightly! empowers generations to enjoy the outdoors responsibly...

[WhiteThaiGer]

[quote]

YukonBob said...
We'll go to Yuma and hang out. Maybe make a trip to El Golfo and scout the confluence. The weather should be great. It's too early in the season for a hurricane.
You did buy your Mexican insurance by the year?http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/smile.gif
No I didn't http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/cry.gif , but then that does not keep me from going back to Mexico http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/smile.gif It might teach me a costly lesson, but not spoil all the fun http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/smilewinkgrin.gif

Don't you think it's a little hot down there? We went to Palm Springs on Saturday and it was hot.

Man, by noon it looked like we'd do a quite 4th July at home, now there are possible 2 trips to choose from? All with there pros and cons...getting a headache.....


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[YukonBob]

White ThaiGer said...

Don't you think it's a little hot down there? We went to Palm Springs on Saturday and it was hot.
You went to Palm Springs?http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/shocked.gif You drove by our house and didn't call?http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/cry.gif You don't deserve to go to Yuma.http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/nono.gif

Yuma in July hot? I don't think so but you won't know until you try it.

You go to Yuma and stay in a nice motel with A/C, hope it works. You go out to dinner to nice restaurant with A/C. You come out at midnight and go swimming because it's cool enough. Then you get up early and go out in the desert where it's really hot. El Golfo should just be stiffling. Only mad dogs and Englishmen go out in the noonday sun.

Yuma, Northern California, or home. Your choice.

[JackSilb]

Forget this non sense of risk on the weather. Come to the nice cool Lake Tahoe. Blue watter.

-JACK

So much to see, so little time. Try using your 4WD tosee and do more.
Tread Lightly! empowers generations to enjoy the outdoors responsibly...

[WhiteThaiGer]

Bob,


Sorry we didn't call, but it's not like we went to Palm Springs for fun! We had to attend a wedding of someone I hardly know, but Srisuda was supposed to go... We went around noon and got back at night. Saturday morning and Sunday was booked, so no time http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/cry.gif


Jack,


An advertising competition for trips?? Let's just list the plain facts...http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/smilewinkgrin.gif


We'll have toweigh all the pros and cons. Knowing us we won't be able to decide and end up wasting the weekend away at homehttp://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/freaked.gif Nah, that must not happen!


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[JackSilb]

> We'll have to weigh all the pros and cons. Knowing us we won't be able to decide and end up wasting the weekend away at
> home Nah, that must not happen!

Data?

Facts:
- Lake Tahoe is famous for outdoors activities.
- It has a beautiful blue water lake.
- It is hight on the mountains. It will not be as hot as you may find in the deserts.
- It has other activities besides 4WD if you are looking for something after the trails.
- It will have two of the coolest people on this board in there.
- It is within a driving distance. If you drive 4 hours, Srisuda drive the other part. You will not even feel it.

You fun level will go to 90%+ with confidence within 6 sigma on the results.

This should get you and Bob coming.

-JACK

So much to see, so little time. Try using your 4WD tosee and do more.
Tread Lightly! empowers generations to enjoy the outdoors responsibly...

[AlWalter]

YukonBob said...



Uwe


Let em go, those guys with their airplanes and mods.


We'll go to Yuma and hang out. Maybe make a trip to El Golfo and scout the confluence. The weather should be great. It's too early in the season for a hurricane.


You did buy your Mexican insurance by the year?http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/smile.gif This has me interested. Hot it will be, but in El Golfo what is to stop you from cooling off in the Sea of Cortez? There is a lot of exploring to do there.http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/hop.gif

[JackSilb]

Ohoh,

One more Baja lover.
Lets to Tahoe then do the Baja trips when I move to San Diego. http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/eyes.gif
-JACK




So much to see, so little time. Try using your 4WD tosee and do more.
Tread Lightly! empowers generations to enjoy the outdoors responsibly...

[YukonBob]

WhiteThaiGer said...



Sorry we didn't call, but it's not like we went to Palm Springs for fun! We had to attend a wedding of someone I hardly know, but Srisuda was supposed to go... We went around noon and got back at night. Saturday morning and Sunday was booked, so no time http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/cry.gif Ok, sorry I flew off the handle. http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/blush.gif

Here is my competitive take:
Yuma
Facts:
- Lake Tahoe is famous for outdoors activities.
Yuma is known as the Willamsburg of the West and the history of the Yuma Crossing is without equal
- It has a beautiful blue water lake.
It has a former mighty river that is not so might anymore and the mosquitos will be terrible.
- It is hight on the mountains. It will not be as hot as you may find in the deserts.
It is in the deepest depression and could be the hottest place on the face of the earth. Nobody in their right mind would consider it. (sorry Al)
- It has other activities besides 4WD if you are looking for something after the trails.
It's going to be too hot to do anything and you'll save lots of money because everything will be closed.
- It will have two of the coolest people on this board in there.
If anyone goes they will be lunatics and they will die. The board will be better off without them.
- It is within a driving distance. If you drive 4 hours, Srisuda drive the other part. You will not even feel it.
It is a lot closer for everybody but Jack
You fun level will go to 90%+ with confidence within 6 sigma on the results.
We may actually accomplish something or we may not. But we'll have a good time. I don't know how to measure it but I am pretty good at doing it.



Post Edited (YukonBob) : 6/12/2003 4:47:33 AM GMT

[YukonBob]

Jack said...
Forget this non sense of risk on the weather. Come to the nice cool Lake Tahoe. Blue watter.


I just want to make it clear that there is no risk of good weather. The weather in Yuma over the 4th of Julywill be hot and dry or hot and humid.

[WhiteThaiGer]

Two strong cases are being made!


We may just pack the truck, head out and let the traffic lights decide http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/smilewinkgrin.gif .


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[JackSilb]

Bob,

I liked your previous reply.
You are giving all the support to come along.

I am going to talk to your boss. Please call Peggy on the line.
I need to talk to the chief. Talking to the indian is not taking me anywhere.

Ask Peggy what she wants to do. The exciting mountains, blue water, pine trees, fresh cold air, and a bit of drive. Or the boring hot air, no vegetation, no shade, desert like view, and a medium drive.

I know her answer. So start planning your trip up north. It will be cool. It will be fun. It will be great!

-JACK

So much to see, so little time. Try using your 4WD tosee and do more.
Tread Lightly! empowers generations to enjoy the outdoors responsibly...

[BajaTaco]

http://home.rochester.rr.com/abbysues/AbbySues1/originalimages/icon_rofl.gif

OMG!!! I am ROTFLMAO!!

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I already know where I am going to be http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/smilewinkgrin.gif so I will let you all fight it out http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/tongue.gif

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[AlWalter]

BajaTaco said...

http://home.rochester.rr.com/abbysues/AbbySues1/originalimages/icon_rofl.gif

OMG!!! I am ROTFLMAO!!

http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/lol.gif

I already know where I am going to be http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/smilewinkgrin.gif so I will let you all fight it out http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/tongue.gif


I need help with ROTFLMAO!!http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/confused.gif

[BajaTaco]

Rolling On The Floor, Laughing My Ass Off!


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[AlWalter]

BajaTaco said...
Rolling On The Floor, Laughing My Ass Off!



Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/rofl.gif http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/rofl.gif

[MrS]

JackSilb said...
....the boring hot air, no vegetation, no shade, desert like view, .......Sounds great, but I get to work. So I can't go. I may like the desert, but no way will I miss out on aholiday at work.

KF6YSB

[Cecile]

Well, Steve, at least you and I can talk to each other occasionally on the board, huh? I can take time out from enjoying Roger's good cooking and watching the high school fireworks from my garden, to say hi once in awhile,so it won't be totally lonely around here.

Cecile
Well behaved women rarely make history-
Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
Real women shift into 4WD!

[BajaTaco]

SteveS said...

[quote]...I may like the desert, but no way will I miss out on aholiday at work. Can you say... Mod Money ??? http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/yeah.gif

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[YukonBob]

Jack said...
I am going to talk to your boss. Please call Peggy on the line.
I need to talk to the chief. Talking to the indian is not taking me anywhere.

Peggy says she drives a Tahoe so she is always in this refreshing place. No need to go anywhere. She says traveling over holidays is for amateurs and she is staying home. Unless of course she gets an invitation to go to Brazil.

http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/rolleyes.gifThat's what she says. She's not on the net much these days since we are on dial-up.

[MrS]

BajaTaco said...
Can you say... Mod Money ??? http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/yeah.gif [/quote]Yes
Yeap
big 10-4
you know it.
affirmative

Just in time, I got a line on a killer deal for a"you'll all hate me" upgrade, and I have the $$$ now. Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy,http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/smile.gif

KF6YSB

[YukonPeggy]

Jack said...
Plus we will be single for the weekend. The communites around the lake are full of people. The night is busy.
A married man is like a dog on leash, you can't bite but you can bark ...




Hey Jackhttp://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/mad.gif


I'm not sure I want to go to Tahoe with you barking dogs! Sounds like Salsita and I will be holding leashes http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/nono.gif while the other spouses are out having a good time in Brazil and Prescott.


Salsita, let's just send our dogs on the trip and we cats can go to Rancho de la Puerta or some other spiffy spa resort http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/cool.gif for the weekend!Prescott is another great place and I know a cat who lives there that won'thave her barking guard dog that weekend. That might be the purrrrfect place for us. Barking dogs - We don't need no stinking barking dogs!!!




Peggy
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Post Edited (YukonPeggy) : 6/14/2003 5:14:00 AM GMT

[GoodTimes]

LMAO @ YukonPeggy.

olllllllo

KG6OWO

Price is soon forgotton, quality is not.

[BajaTaco]

SteveS said...


[quote]
... Just in time, I got a line on a killer deal for a"you'll all hate me" upgrade, and I have the $$$ now. Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy,http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/smile.gif


I won't hate you... mwuahahahahahaha http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/devil.gif http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/smilewinkgrin.gif http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/scool.gif http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/yeah.gif

Barking dogs? Wait a minute... nobody said anything about barking dogs... Jack?

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[JackSilb]

> Peggy says she drives a Tahoe so she is always in this refreshing place. No need to go anywhere. She says traveling over
> holidays is for amateurs and she is staying home. Unless of course she gets an invitation to go to Brazil.

This is the right time. Georgia will be there. The invitations is being made.
I believe Georgia got the Tickets for < $800.00. Not a bad deal. I paid $1,400 at one time.

Also, leave some $$ for our driving trip to Brazil. I still have it on my mind. Just have to take all the other things out of the way.

-JACK

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Tread Lightly! empowers generations to enjoy the outdoors responsibly...

[JackSilb]

> Barking dogs? Wait a minute... nobody said anything about barking dogs... Jack?

Wolf, wolf, wolf.
uAo, uAo, uAo (Portuguese version)

You know what people say, who talks does not do it.
-JACK

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[JackSilb]

[quote]Lake Tahoe Baby
[quote]http://www.virtualtahoe.com/Cam.html
[quote]http://www.tahoevacationguide.com/Activities/offroad.html
http://www.tahoevacationguide.com/Photos/rubiconfx2.jpg
[quote]
http://www.tahoesbest.com/images/lake_shore2.jpg
http://www.tahoesbest.com/images/kayak.jpg
http://www.tahoevacationguide.com/Photos/echowherefx-2.jpg
http://www.tahoevacationguide.com/Photos/tkrmainimage2.jpg

Bring your's Bob.
-JACK




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Post Edited (JackSilb) : 6/17/2003 12:10:06 AM GMT

[BajaTaco]

http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/scool.gif

Hey, these guys are joking... right? http://www.kirkwood.com/livecam.asp

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[JackSilb]

Huh,

It is probably from an old update. They forgot to get the camera going again.

-JACK

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[Salsita]

YukonPeggy said...
Salsita, let's just send our dogs on the trip and we cats can go to Rancho de la Puerta or some other spiffy spa resort http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/cool.gif for the weekend!Prescott is another great place and I know a cat who lives there that won'thave her barking guard dog that weekend. That might be the purrrrfect place for us. Barking dogs - We don't need no stinking barking dogs!!!That's a great idea! Am working on chasing the barking dog away http://www.handykult.de/plaudersmilies.de/dogrun.gifright now http://www.handykult.de/plaudersmilies.de/wolfgang.gif

May I have a spoon with that salsa?

[YukonBob]

Jack said...
Lake Tahoe BabyThis is a tough challenge. The last three photographers in Yuma in July perished. One became encased in mud while seeking relief in the Colorado River. The humidity was so low that by the time he got into the river it was gone.http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/smhair.gif He was stuck forever and can still be seen every July. The second, who's birthday was the Fourth of July, expired while inhaling to gather enough air to blow out the candles on his birthday cake. His lungs were instantly seared by the hot dry air. http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/shocked.gif The third fell victim to dehydration while walking from his car to the one-hour photo booth. It seems he didn't take any water for the thirty second hike. http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/skull.gif It's just another reminder that you must be prepared for all your journeys.

Maybe, I can find something taken in August. I'll look.http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/cool.gif

[BajaTaco]

http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/scool.gif Yuma Baby - YEA! http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/scool.gif





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Bob, quit tempting us. Even those of us with plane tickets are considering the extra fees to change the flight http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/rolleyes.gif


Isn't Yuma where they have the world's only indoor, air conditioned fireworks display on the 4th of July?




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[YukonBob]

Baja said...
Isn't Yuma where they have the world's only indoor, air conditioned fireworks display on the 4th of July?I was saving that for my trump card. Only problem is announcing it this early, I'm going to have to make a special deal with the Yuma Fire Department to handle the increased attendence. Casualty rate is 50% from the car to the auditorium.

[JackSilb]

Here we go.
This is the way to get are real adventure.

-JACK

So much to see, so little time. Try using your 4WD tosee and do more.
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[YukonBob]

Jack- No fair. You post those images from a website off theserver. I just spent an hour trying to post the images like you but had them in the photo gallery. Boy am I a sucker!

Ok, my partial rebutal to your Lake Tahoe photos.

From last years trip to Yuma. Please notice that only one year ago I was young and full of hope.

http://www.rxtx.com:8085/4wdtrips/photogallery/data/media/55/yuma4wd.jpg


This picture shows the last recordered photograph of a group going to Yuma for the 4th of July. None returned.

http://www.rxtx.com:8085/4wdtrips/photogallery/data/media/55/yumafourthgroup.jpg

Post Edited (YukonBob) : 6/19/2003 4:24:22 AM GMT

[BajaTaco]

I think now is about the time for Al to come in here and post his new-found acronym...


c'mon Al...


...you know the one. http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/lol.gif

http://www.bajataco.com
Vibram or BFG - getting there on rubber and seeing it all!
KD7UUS

[AlWalter]

BajaTaco said...




I think now is about the time for Al to come in here and post his new-found acronym...


c'mon Al...


...you know the one. http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/lol.gif


FOMBLMAO or ROTFLMAO http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/posticons/icon4.gif

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[MrS]

Al, whats your avatar? A smor without chocolate?

KF6YSB

[JackSilb]

Aha, I guess Bob and Al got Avatars. Just wondering how they got these.

-JACK

So much to see, so little time. Try using your 4WD tosee and do more.
Tread Lightly! empowers generations to enjoy the outdoors responsibly...

[JackSilb]

> Jack- No fair. You post those images from a website off the server. I just spent an hour trying to post the images like you but had > them in the photo gallery. Boy am I a sucker!
> Ok, my partial rebutal to your Lake Tahoe photos.
> From last years trip to Yuma. Please notice that only one year ago I was young and full of hope.

Bob,

You can do the same from our Photo gallery. While seeing the image, Rick click the mouse, copy the Picture URL, then paste it in your posting as a Image URL.
I did not copy the images to our photo gallery because of copy right. I am not sure people would like me to get their pictures and save without them giving me the OK.

Got it?
But you are correct that I would like us to keep the pictures attached to the posting or using our own photo gallery. That will prevent
our postings to have missing links.

Thanks,
-JACK
p.s. did you get your broadband connection back yet?

So much to see, so little time. Try using your 4WD tosee and do more.
Tread Lightly! empowers generations to enjoy the outdoors responsibly...

[MrS]

Bob, are those photo's of where Jack gets his loading ideas? I hope not, sure hate to see the family on top. Ha Ha

KF6YSB

[JackSilb]

Steve,

You are genius! I just solve the space problem of my 4Runner. Just have the kids on the top ...
-JACK

So much to see, so little time. Try using your 4WD tosee and do more.
Tread Lightly! empowers generations to enjoy the outdoors responsibly...

[BajaTaco]

FOMBLMAO!


(Thanks Al - I hadn't thought of that one... http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/lol.gif )

http://www.bajataco.com
Vibram or BFG - getting there on rubber and seeing it all!
KD7UUS

[AlWalter]

SteveS said...
Al, whats your avatar? A smor without chocolate?


I have no idea. I'm not versatile enough to be able to do that. There's a devil in the woodpile. http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/devil.gif

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[AlWalter]

I'm totally confused, which isn't hard to do. http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/eyes.gif Lake Tahoe? Yuma/El Golfo?


Is there anything going for sure with either? Both have there pluses &amp; minuses. I can go but to where?


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[WhiteThaiGer]

AlWalter said...



I'm totally confused, which isn't hard to do. http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/eyes.gif Lake Tahoe? Yuma/El Golfo?


Is there anything going for sure with either? Both have there pluses &amp; minuses. I can go but to whereAl, you are not alone!! We are in the same boat! Where to go? Which ++ outweighs which ---?




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[YukonBob]

Jack said...
Aha, I guess Bob and Al got Avatars. Just wondering how they got these.
Yeah, like you don't know where they came from. Can you say passwordhttp://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/rolleyes.gif ?




Jack said...
You can do the same from our Photo gallery. While seeing the image, Rick click the mouse, copy the Picture URL, then paste it in your posting as a Image URL.
Doesn't work anymore. New server software? When viewing the image this is the url http://www.rxtx.com:8085/4wdtrips/photogallery/details.php?image_id=622

But this is the url to actually get to the image taken from the image properties.

http://www.rxtx.com:8085/4wdtrips/photogallery/data/media/55/yuma4wd.jpg

And here's a suggestion for the forum software. The format of image size is height x width 480x640. I think the normal format is 640 x 480. I suggest changing to width and height.And both the image and hyperlink dialogs default to http://. If you don't delete those before copy your link it does a double like http://http://. I suggest removing the default.

Post Edited (YukonBob) : 6/19/2003 5:09:50 AM GMT

[YukonBob]

And for all of you dogs out there! The odds are real good in Yuma. There are two women for every man.


http://www.rxtx.com:8085/4wdtrips/photogallery/data/media/55/yumaodds.jpg
And five children. But no horses!

[JackSilb]

Bob,

I just fixed your posting it does work.
Just need to click on the INSERT image not URL. Then past the URL for the image.
I worked just fine.

I guess we got way out of the 4th of July great trip to Tahoe.
Baja is in, Marcelo is considering, Uwe is undecided, Al is confused, Bob is looking for burning in the desert with the great girls pictured above.

-JACK

So much to see, so little time. Try using your 4WD tosee and do more.
Tread Lightly! empowers generations to enjoy the outdoors responsibly...

[YukonBob]

Al said...



I'm totally confused, which isn't hard to do. http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/eyes.gif Lake Tahoe? Yuma/El Golfo?


Is there anything going for sure with either? Both have there pluses &amp; minuses. I can go but to where?I think you ought to go for the Lake Tahoe trip. That's a real trip and people are going. Well, Jack and Baja are going. I wouldn't even consider going to Yuma/El Golfo over the Fourth. http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/blush.gif

Unless of course, someone really wanted to go.http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/idea.gif

[BajaTaco]

JackSilb said...


... Al is confused, Bob is looking for burning in the desert with the great girls pictured above.


LMAO!! http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/lol.gif

BTW, Jack... how am I going to ride in the 4Runner with Shadow? She will attempt to use me for a chew toy if I even get close to the Toyota, no? Also - I am thinking I will bring my sleeping bag and little solo tent, but I cannot bring my stove or a knife, so I hope I can borrow these items from you. I am also thinking about what Steve said regarding backpacks and planes... I need to check and see if there is anyway I can qualify my pack as carry-on. I don't want to risk checking it as luggage.

http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/smhair.gif

http://www.bajataco.com
Vibram or BFG - getting there on rubber and seeing it all!
KD7UUS

[GoodTimes]

Baja, if it is of any comfort, my little sister has checked her backpack several times, and it has survived (It even came through Steves area of 'responsibility' (and I use that term loosely--hahaha) once. Of course it doesn't have much in the lines of compression straps and the such hanging off the outside of it.

You may also consider a BIG duffle bag to put your pack inside of (like the one I have for all my camping (not backpacking) stuff. Of course that would be a capitol expendature, and you would probably have to get that cleared with the boss. Of course, if you had a big bag like that, you probably wouldn't need to bring your pack would you?


olllllllo <---- If you can read that, roll me over.

KG6OWO

Price is soon forgotton, quality is not.

[BajaTaco]

GoodTimes said...
Baja, if it is of any comfort, my little sister has checked her backpack several times, and it has survived (It even came through Steves area of "responsibility" (and I use that term loosely--hahaha) once. Of course it doesn't have much in the lines of compression straps and the such hanging off the outside of it.

You may also consider a BIG duffle bag to put your pack inside of (like the one I have for all my camping (not backpacking) stuff. Of course that would be a capitol expendature, and you would probably have to get that cleared with the boss. Of course, if you had a big bag like that, you probably wouldn't need to bring your pack would you?


You da man! Thanks for the idea on the duffle. We do indeed have a few duffles that my pack would fit inside of. I guess I was planning on bringing the pack because Jack mentioned some hiking...

Jack - are we backpacking overnight? Or are we car-camping and just doing day hikes? Lemme know - so I can determine which pack/duffle to bring.

http://www.bajataco.com
Vibram or BFG - getting there on rubber and seeing it all!
KD7UUS

[AlWalter]

YukonBob said...




Al said...



I'm totally confused, which isn't hard to do. http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/eyes.gif Lake Tahoe? Yuma/El Golfo?


Is there anything going for sure with either? Both have there pluses &amp; minuses. I can go but to where?I think you ought to go for the Lake Tahoe trip. That's a real trip and people are going. Well, Jack and Baja are going. I wouldn't even consider going to Yuma/El Golfo over the Fourth. http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/blush.gif

Unless of course, someone really wanted to go.http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/idea.gifI prefer doing Yuma/El Golfo because it's closer &amp; easier for me if someone is interested, If not I'm off to Lake Tahoe. http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/yeah.gif

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[JackSilb]

Hi Baja,

Just bring your single tent, clothes, sun glasses, and other must have accessories.
I will take care of the gear. I have plenty. It may not be as good as yours but it is good.

We may eat in the City so can bark a lot but NOT bite.

I have a pet barrier, so the dogs can't come to the front.
Besides that Shadow just get protective when people come from the outside to close to the car.
She will get used to you.

-JACK

So much to see, so little time. Try using your 4WD tosee and do more.
Tread Lightly! empowers generations to enjoy the outdoors responsibly...

[JackSilb]

Baja,

I don't have gear to backpack overnight. I never did it either. So I would be a drag.
Day trips is the goal. Barking at night a lot too.

-JACK




So much to see, so little time. Try using your 4WD tosee and do more.
Tread Lightly! empowers generations to enjoy the outdoors responsibly...

[JackSilb]

> I prefer doing Yuma/El Golfo because it's closer & easier for me if someone is interested, If not I'm off to Lake Tahoe.

Yeah, stop by Uwe's before you come. Then we will have a just dogs trip.

Wolf WOOLF WOOLF.


Marcelo is considering coming too. But as all Brazilians, he will not now until the last minute.


Got to run. I have a plane to catch.
-JACK
p.s. Steve I just spent a good $$ K buying 4 tickets to Brazil with United. Georgia and the kids are flying United. See how I am helping a friend?

So much to see, so little time. Try using your 4WD tosee and do more.
Tread Lightly! empowers generations to enjoy the outdoors responsibly...

[BajaTaco]

JackSilb said...


Day trips is the goal. Barking at night a lot too...

... Yeah, stop by Uwe's before you come. Then we will have a just dogs trip.

Wolf WOOLF WOOLF.http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/lol.gif

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/sosages/images/howl.gif http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/nono.gif

http://www.bajataco.com
Vibram or BFG - getting there on rubber and seeing it all!
KD7UUS

[YukonBob]

Be careful what you joke about. You might be doing it someday.


Al, I'm in if you want to do it. Let's see if we can work up a plan.


I'm thinking a lesiurely trip. Leave for Yuma on the 4th in the morning. Meet up at high noon just to establish we have no common sense. Do some historical stuff, some airconditioned museums, if anything is open. Maybe see where Padre Graces died. I'd like to see the confluence of the Gila and the Colorado Rivers.http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/idea.gif Hey, maybe we can cross the Colorado just like Kino and Garces did. Bring your bathing suit. Let's see I know a great Mexican Restaurant with killer Margaritas, an old fiftys style motel on the main drag with a swimming pool in the middle. We can go swimming at midnight. Bring your bathing suit.


Saturday head to El Golfo and some exploring. I never been there. Find a motel for the night. I might like to find the road out to the railroad tracks and on to Rocky Point. Not take it.http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/nono.gif but find it. We wouldn't want to get too close to 32114


Sunday explore andleave for home about noon.


What have you got? How do you envision it? Your stomping grounds. http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/smhair.gif

[YukonBob]

Ok, you may think this is strange but the more I think about it the more I want to do it.


I want to cross the Colorado at the confluence with the Gila. Just like most everybody did before there was bridge. I want to do Yuma Crossing.


I'm going to Yuma. I just wish I wasn't on fire.http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/jumpin.gif

[BajaTaco]

Bob, that is too cool http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/cool.gif When you can make a guy who has plane tickets to go to Lake Tahoe actually consider using them to prop up the wobbly table in the "mexican restaurant with killer margaritas" in Yuma, you must be good. http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/lol.gif Oh man - the Yuma crossing thing really got me - just be careful when you cross - don't let those funky vibes (http://www.uapress.arizona.edu/books/bid1210.htm) get to you.

http://www.bajataco.com
Vibram or BFG - getting there on rubber and seeing it all!
KD7UUS

[AlWalter]

YukonBob,

You're on the mark. The Yuma part sounds great, have never stoped in Yuma for more than food &amp; gas. Lets do the crossing. I'm an early riser, so mid morning meeting in Yuma also works for me. Can you recommend a motel in Yuma &amp; should we make reservations?

I've never stayed in a motel in El Golfo &amp; not sure what accomodations we will find. I've always camped on the beach. Lets's see what we can find, but be prepared to camp, don't forget it is a holiday weekend.

I'm pretty familiar with the roads. I want to find the road to the confluence that comes up from the beach. That would be the best route, not the road that follows the railroad from the El Golfo road.

Because it is a holiday weekend, the border crossing will be heavy in the afternoon. Be prepared.




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[WhiteThaiGer]

Hm this is getting interesting!!! That crossing is an adventure, some unknown, I like it.

I would much prefer to go to the mountains with streams and lakes, but it's 1100+ miles roundtrip to Lake Tahoe from here and we have to go through LA.This makes me wonder what's more insane: Yuma in summer or going through LA on the eve of a holiday weekendhttp://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/shocked.gif ?
Yuma/El Golfo is less than half the drive and no LA!

What about the Mexico part. It's not Baja, so do you need to do the whole car import deal? Or just car insurance?




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[AlWalter]

[quote]

WhiteThaiGer said...

Hm this is getting interesting!!! That crossing is an adventure, some unknown, I like it.

I would much prefer to go to the mountains with streams and lakes, but it's 1100+ miles roundtrip to Lake Tahoe from here and we have to go through LA.This makes me wonder what's more insane: Yuma in summer or going through LA on the eve of a holiday weekendhttp://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/shocked.gif ?
Yuma/El Golfo is less than half the drive and no LA!

What about the Mexico part. It's not Baja, so do you need to do the whole car import deal? Or just car insurance?


[quote]
[quote]You will just have to settle for the Sea of Cortez &amp; climbing a sand dune.
[quote]
[quote]Car insurance is all you need. That part of Sonora is almost considered like going to Ensenada, very touristy except it's on the Sea of Cortez &amp; not the Pacific Ocean.
[quote]

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[YukonBob]

How excitinghttp://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/devil.gif It's a trip.


Al, we don't need to make reservations but I will get you the motel information so you can make them if you like. Let me do a little leg work and make sure they are still in business etc.


Uwe, I agree with Al. We'll be traveling in the border duty free area and you won't need a car permit. Won't need a tourist card either, but yours is still valid from the March Baja trip. A couple of days of insurance and your good to go.


Al said...
I've never stayed in a motel in El Golfo &amp; not sure what accomodations we will find. I've always camped on the beach. Lets's see what we can find, but be prepared to camp, don't forget it is a holiday weekend.



I've never been to El Golfo but I'd be surprised if we see many Americans. Somelocals from Mexicali and San Luis Rio Colorado maybe. We are kind of bucking the tourist trend. But we'll be ready to camp if big city life doesn't suit us.

[YukonBob]

I've checked my reference material and here's what I'll be taking.


(Baja, thanks for the link. I'll look into that one.)


Arizona Highways November 1984


America's Colorado River Crossing: A Williamsburg of the West at Yuma


Yuma Crossing by Douglas D. Martin


1954 University of New Mexico Press


Bring what you've got or you can find. We'll have lot's of time to read while walking across.


Can you tell I'm excited? http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/jumpin.gif ? Oh, Darn fire.

[YukonBob]

I went to Rancho Mirage yesterday afternoon to get in some hot weather training for the Yuma trip, The temperature as measured by Peggy's Tahoe at 6:50PM was76 degrees.http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/shocked.gif It's usually hotter than 76 for the low of the day on June 20th. There is something wrong somewhere. Yuma may be comfortable paradise and Lake Tahoe could be a frozen wasteland. If a cold front comes through we may have to ice skate across the Colorado.http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/lol.gif

[AlWalter]

YukonBob said...



How excitinghttp://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/devil.gif It's a trip.


Al, we don't need to make reservations but I will get you the motel information so you can make them if you like. Let me do a little leg work and make sure they are still in business etc.
[quote]
I'll just leave that in your hands.http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/ok-kewl.gif I don't necessarily have to have a reservation, it's sometimes more fun to just see what you get.

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[JackSilb]

You guys all will miss the nice fresh air and temperature of Tahoe.
Baja and I will send you pictures later.
We lots to cover. Baja, I could not stop and list and specific trail yet. Next Sunday I will be single. Then I can catch on the trip planning OK?

-JACK

So much to see, so little time. Try using your 4WD tosee and do more.
Tread Lightly! empowers generations to enjoy the outdoors responsibly...

[YukonBob]

Al, I think waiting until we get there to motel will work. I'll go out on a limb and say we'll have our choice. Of course, I said the same thing about Ranco Mirage last Friday. Reservations for dinner? It's the middle of summer! Our biggest worry will be if there is anything open. We got there and the temperature was in 70's and everything was packed. It's all about trade-offs. Nice temperature, lots of people. I hope the temperature isn't too nice in Lake Tahoe over a holiday weekend.http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/devil.gif


Are we going to hear from the fence sitter?http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/rolleyes.gif


Jack said...
Baja and I will send you pictures later.



I'm not sure we're going to be able to send any pictures. Melting cameras and all that mess. When it gets too hot, you find alternatives. What I will try and do is draw some pictures. I have attached a sketch by J Ross Browne for his 1864 book Adventures in the Apache Country. It is a view of Fort Yuma from the Arizona side. I presume that is the Gila coming in from the right side. I've seen a lithograph that pretty much covers the same area and I'm going to guess that we'll be able to find the observation point. All I have to do is learn to draw between now and July 4th. Uwe became a HAM in less than two weeks so maybe it's possible.http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Post Edited (YukonBob) : 6/24/2003 4:24:55 AM GMT

[JackSilb]

Talking about this.
Al and Bob are slowing down on becoming a Ham.

-JACK

So much to see, so little time. Try using your 4WD tosee and do more.
Tread Lightly! empowers generations to enjoy the outdoors responsibly...

[WhiteThaiGer]

JackSilb said...
Talking about this.
Al and Bob are slowing down on becoming a Ham.

-JACK



I know! That's one of the '-' for the Yuma trip, it'll be CB only http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/cry.gif


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[YukonBob]

White ThaiGer said...

I know! That's one of the '-' for the Yuma trip, it'll be CB only http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/cry.gif It's too hot for radios. Everybody will have mirrors and there will be relays on the mountain peaks.

[BajaTaco]

LMAO!!!

Jack, you gotta get me that little smiley that is hysterically laughing...

BTW Bob, I met a really interesting guy today - from Yuma. I'll have to tell you about him...

http://www.bajataco.com
Vibram or BFG - getting there on rubber and seeing it all!
KD7UUS

[YukonBob]

Ok, let's trade. Last weekend I met a guy from Prescott.Been there about twelve years I think he said. He used to make his living as an archeologist, but now he deals in Mata Ortiz pottery. He still does some things for the goverment on a volunteer basis. He brought some potters out to Cherry Valley. Very interesting guy and subject matter.


Post Edited (YukonBob) : 6/26/2003 3:04:29 AM GMT

[BajaTaco]

Wow! That's cool! It's a small world, isn't it?

This guy lived in Yuma and worked at the college there. He was once told by a woman that to truly acquire the spanish language, you need to practice and speak it for 7 years. Any less, and you will not effectively retain it should you stop using it. Once you have it for 7 consistent years, it will always be with you.

So, he crossed the border and rented an apartment in San Luis. He commuted back and forth across the border to go to work every day for 7 years. He immersed himself with the floods of transient workers that cross the border there every day. Now he knows the language and the people. Anyway, I met him at a group that is getting together once a week for spanish conversation - pretty cool! Next week, I'll ask him about the Yuma crossing http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/biggrin.gif

http://www.bajataco.com
Vibram or BFG - getting there on rubber and seeing it all!
KD7UUS

[JackSilb]

Did you meet anyone from Tahoe?
Tahoe baby!

-Jack

So much to see, so little time. Try using your 4WD tosee and do more.
Tread Lightly! empowers generations to enjoy the outdoors responsibly...

[YukonBob]

We've got two for Tahoe and two for Yuma. What about the undecideds?


Uwe, you can get started on your heliograph tech license here (http://usaic.hua.army.mil/history/Html/Rolak.htmlhttp://usaic.hua.army.mil/history/Html/Rolak.html). The license is also good in Mexico as there is a bilateral agreement. You have less than two weeks. I think the mount will be your biggest hurdle.http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/headscratch.gif


Baja, taking Spanish conversation classes?How cool.http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/cool.gif I hope we run into some people on the Sierra Madre trips so you can use it.http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/smilewinkgrin.gif

Post Edited (YukonBob) : 6/26/2003 4:14:28 AM GMT

[BajaTaco]

YukonBob said...




Baja, taking Spanish conversation classes?How cool.http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/cool.gif No - not classes, just people sitting around, drinking beer and speaking spanish http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/biggrin.gif

http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/beertoast.gif (sort of a "relaxed" learning environment)

http://www.bajataco.com
Vibram or BFG - getting there on rubber and seeing it all!
KD7UUS

[GoodTimes]

Oh, so the spanish is like a bonus! People sitting around, drinking beer....yea, that's the life!!!

Where do I sign up? I don't speak spanish, but I can drink beer!


olllllllo <---- If you can read that, roll me over.

KG6OWO

Price is soon forgotton, quality is not.

[YukonBob]

Baja said...
No - not classes, just people sitting around, drinking beer and speaking spanish http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/biggrin.gif
http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/cool.gif What a great idea! http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/cool.gif

I can't wait to hear more about it (but I will)http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/smilewinkgrin.gif Finally someone to keep me out of trouble when Peggy is mad at me.

[WhiteThaiGer]

YukonBob said...




We've got two for Tahoe and two for Yuma. What about the undecideds?


Uwe, you can get started on your heliograph tech license here (http://usaic.hua.army.mil/history/Html/Rolak.htmlhttp://usaic.hua.army.mil/history/Html/Rolak.html). The license is also good in Mexico as there is a bilateral agreement. You have less than two weeks. I think the mount will be your biggest hurdle.http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/headscratch.gif Still undecided... I wonder whether we should go at all, maybe I just work and then save the day for a later trip, like the crowded October. It doesn't help that we have to do the overseas family thing in September...costs valuable 4x4 time. http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/smilewinkgrin.gif
But how good can the concentration be when I know everone is out having fun (that includes SteveS, he may not be out, but the sound 'ka-ching' is pleasant anywherehttp://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/biggrin.gif )

Biggest problem with the heliograph is June Gloom down here!!!! Haven't seen this http://www.handykult.de/plaudersmilies.de/natur/sunny.gifin weeks!


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[YukonBob]

Sure is quiet without Jack around to stir things up.http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/sleeping.gif

[BajaTaco]

Oh boy - I have a feeling that Jack and I are going to just barely make our rendezvous at the airport... and we'll just have to wing this trip with no plans other than knowing the general direction we'll be headed...

SOUNDS FUN! http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/ok-kewl.gif

http://www.bajataco.com
Vibram or BFG - getting there on rubber and seeing it all!
KD7UUS

[JackSilb]

OK folks I am back.

I did not sleep much that last nights but here I am.
The family is safe in Brazil.
The house 99% ready. You can mark closed all the 'mods' we had listed before. + Georgia built an office at the SPA room. Now it is 1/2 SPA 1/2 an office, wood all around. I need to take some pictures for you. Better, it will have one of those virtual tours that you can take. Lets see what they get.

What? the missing 1%!? Darn you had to ask.
I was changing the toilet kit. After changing the whole thing (valves, pipes, etc. etc) the water feed line was short! !@#$%%^%%$#%^%^^%&^%%^%^^%%
It was 1:30 AM yesterday. Oh man~ !$#$$#%$#%%^^%^%&&&*
Now my nice real-state agent will take care of that.

-JACK

So much to see, so little time. Try using your 4WD tosee and do more.
Tread Lightly! empowers generations to enjoy the outdoors responsibly...

[JackSilb]

Huh, Just called Baja because I had a PM from him. My mistake it was an old one. Sorry Baja.

Anyway, Bob sent me a PM telling me that he want to come along but Peggy does not like him barking around.
It seem that he has some king of anti-barking collar that give him an electric stimulus when he barks. No wondering he has these mysterious Internet connection problems....

Uwe, just come along. Never leave for later what you can do now. The later may never come...
I need to call Marcelo, see if he made his mind.

-JACK

So much to see, so little time. Try using your 4WD tosee and do more.
Tread Lightly! empowers generations to enjoy the outdoors responsibly...

[JackSilb]

By the way, Baja I will take my small (micro) barbecue with me. We will eat well my friend. Brazilian barbecue. Just hope the bears don't like it too http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/freaked.gif http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/gottogo.gif
-JACK




So much to see, so little time. Try using your 4WD tosee and do more.
Tread Lightly! empowers generations to enjoy the outdoors responsibly...

[JackSilb]

This is the kind of trip I like. No plans defined yet, 4 days before the trip.
We will go as we feel.

-JACK

So much to see, so little time. Try using your 4WD tosee and do more.
Tread Lightly! empowers generations to enjoy the outdoors responsibly...

[YukonBob]

The Yuma Death March in July is shaping up.

We'll be meeting at The Yuma Landing Restaurant and Lounge (http://www.yumalanding.com/)for lunch at noon on the Fourth. It's got to do with landing airplanes and not steamboats.

The next stop will be The Yuma Crossing State Historical Park (http://www.desertusa.com/yuma/azyumax.html). I like the information ondesert usa websitebetter than the official site (http://www.pr.state.az.us/parkhtml/yumacross.html)but you can chose.

I think we are going to have to pay a visit to state prison historic site (http://www.desertusa.com/yuma/du_yumatp.html). I hear that there is a great view from one of the guard towers of the confluence. Once again here is the link to the official state park site (http://www.pr.state.az.us/parkhtml/yuma.html).

Across the river is the site of Fort Yuma and the original Spanish mission. I think they are going to be closed but we'll give it a look from the other side of the river. Here is some information on Fort Yuma (http://www.militarymuseum.org/FtYuma.html)before it became an Indian Reservation.

Then we'll have to decide how best to approach the confluence, if it can be crossed, and if I can make some sketches.

All of the this will be followed by Mexican food, margaritas and a midnight swim in motel pool to discuss the trip to Mexico on Saturday.

Al has suggest that we might make it to Rocky Point on Saturday night.I originally dismissed the idea because of the heat but it doesn't appear the trip is that far and it will bring us close to 32114. Saturday and Sunday are still up for last minute decisions.http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/cool.gif

[JackSilb]

What is this?

This guy is hijacking my thread.

Hey, we will have free beer and nice Brazilian barbecue for the fir 10 that show up...

-JACK

So much to see, so little time. Try using your 4WD tosee and do more.
Tread Lightly! empowers generations to enjoy the outdoors responsibly...

[JackSilb]

Nice plan, are you sure you don't want to come to Tahoe? At least we would have a plan, besides the cool 3D maps.

-JACK

So much to see, so little time. Try using your 4WD tosee and do more.
Tread Lightly! empowers generations to enjoy the outdoors responsibly...

[YukonBob]

Jack said...
Anyway, Bob sent me a PM telling me that he want to come along but Peggy does not like him barking around.
It seem that he has some king of anti-barking collar that give him an electric stimulus when he barksI see that the concept of a private message is foreign to you Mr. Big Mouth.http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/joker1.gif . Now everybody knows I am a chihuahuahttp://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

Post Edited (YukonBob) : 7/2/2003 4:10:44 AM GMT

[BajaTaco]

ROTFLMAO!!!!! http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/rofl.gif

Bob, please don't bring your shock collar to Mexico in the fall... I don't want Sharon to get any ideas... http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/lol.gif

http://www.bajataco.com
Vibram or BFG - getting there on rubber and seeing it all!
KD7UUS

[JackSilb]

Uwe, have you made you mind about Tahoe? Brazilian barbecue, I need a head count ...
-JACK

So much to see, so little time. Try using your 4WD tosee and do more.
Tread Lightly! empowers generations to enjoy the outdoors responsibly...

[WhiteThaiGer]

JackSilb said...
Uwe, have you made you mind about Tahoe? Brazilian barbecue, I need a head count ...


Yes, it's just too far for us for the weekend. We will have to try your Brazilian barbecue at a later time.

At this time it actually looks like we will be staying home. No Yuma either http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/cry.gif, but for that trip we don't really have to decide until Friday morning, it's about 3h from here.


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[JackSilb]

> but for that trip we don't really have to decide until Friday morning, it's about 3h from here.

I see. Make your mind Thursday and start driving.
-JACK

So much to see, so little time. Try using your 4WD tosee and do more.
Tread Lightly! empowers generations to enjoy the outdoors responsibly...

[BajaTaco]

OK, tonight was spanish conversation and cerveza night, and Iasked the Yuma guy about the Yuma crossing. He said you can indeed walk across, but if you plan to exit on the Cali side, it might be a little challenging because there is somewhat of a cliff there. So, now I have visions of you guys waltzing across the colorado, each with a beer bottle stuffed in your back pocket. When you get to the other side, you will pull the beers out, pop the tops, and then "clink" - next, you will pull a sandal off your foot and "high-five" each other by smacking the soles of the sandals in the air.

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Vibram or BFG - getting there on rubber and seeing it all!
KD7UUS

[YukonBob]

I can't imagine a better way for it happen. We may have to hire a sketch artist to record it. Yuma Crossing here we come. Thanks for the good news, Baja. If I get to do Yuma Crossing, everything else will be a pleasant addition.

Post Edited (YukonBob) : 7/2/2003 5:21:11 AM GMT

[JackSilb]

Uwe,

Last chance. I am taking care of house todos before I leave to get Baja at the airport. If your run to the airport and get a flight you still can make it. Wolf, wolf, wolf.

-JACK

So much to see, so little time. Try using your 4WD tosee and do more.
Tread Lightly! empowers generations to enjoy the outdoors responsibly...

[WhiteThaiGer]

JackSilb said...
Uwe,

Last chance. I am taking care of house todos before I leave to get Baja at the airport. If your run to the airport and get a flight you still can make it. Wolf, wolf, wolf.

-JACK




Thanks, I know I'll miss something with 2 trips going on, but I just sat down at my desk to start working! http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/cry.gif
So you all have fun and enjoy. Those of us staying home are waiting for the reports/pictures already....


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[GoodTimes]

Well?

got pics?

anyone?


olllllllo <---- If you can read that, roll me over.

KG6OWO

Price is soon forgotton, quality is not.

[YukonPeggy]

Pics?

Bob's camera melted.

Bob melted.

oh well - http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/notme.gif

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[BajaTaco]

LOL!! Yea, Jack and I were imagining the sweltering heat of 4wdtrips.net south dispatch, while 4wdtrips north dispatch were enjoying the lake, waterfalls, shady trees and cool breezes http://www.rxtx.com/4wdtrips/forum/emoticons/smilewinkgrin.gif

We got some pictures - DL'ing them now... and a little bit of video too. As soon as I can, I'll post in the "previous trips" section.


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[YukonBob]

What happened to Jack on the Fourth of July trip. His collar break and he slipped the leash? Shadow did him in? Baja going to be on America's most wanted?

[JackSilb]

Let me close this Thread.
We will continue on the trip report.
Stay tuned.

-JACK

So much to see, so little time. Try using your 4WD tosee and do more.
Tread Lightly! empowers generations to enjoy the outdoors responsibly...